A (very detailed) first impressions review: The Nikon D800

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We all know the paper specs for the Nikon D800: 36MP, 4fps, full frame. Same ISO range as the D700 – 100 to 25,600. 100% viewfinder, full HD movies, and an improved 51-point AF system derived from the previous camera. And to boot, a D800E version with no anti-aliasing filter for even more resolution, as if 36MP with a weak filter wasn’t enough for you. What we don’t know is how it fares in the real world.

What follows is what I believe is the one of, if not the first, complete, real-world test by a photographer of a production D800. 8 hours of non-stop flat-out work – so, please leave a comment if you enjoyed it.

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I first heard D800-shaped noises way back at a Nikon event in March 2011, both locally and from my sources in Japan. These definitely wasn’t the same information as what was going around on the popular rumor sites at the time – I was told specifically D3X replacement, slightly higher pricing. An interesting strategy; too bad the initially planned May-2011 release got derailed by the tsunami. The Sendai plant that produces the D700, D800, D3S and D4 was inundated and had all of its precision machinery replaced; an amazing feat considering the magnitude of the disaster.

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Stall chef. D800, 85/1.4 G. 

All images in this review were shot as 14-bit lossless compressed NEF and converted in ACR 6.7/ PSCS5.5.

Still, the camera has finally arrived, and delivered precisely on the promised date – even in a small market like Malaysia. That’s impressive. I got mine through NPS; apparently there are around 200 members, 90 D800 orders, and…only 18 cameras to go around. Mine must be one from the very very first batch – serial number 234.

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Literally, Mickey Mouse color. D800, 85/1.4 G, DX crop mode.

Initially, I wasn’t going to order one. Then my high-mileage D700 began to give up the ghost, and I downloaded some sample images – which in short, blew me away. They were honestly better than the output from the Hasselblad H3D-39 I used a couple of years back in mid-2010 – and quite close to what I’ve seen out of the Leica S2 (I do have access to one, I will try to do some comparisons soon) so far. I called my local NPS rep and put in an order for the D800E; however, playing with both sets of demo files further, it became clear that a) you weren’t really giving up that much getting the regular D800, and as a bonus, it would arrive sooner – an increasingly important factor given this month’s shooting commitments – and b) lenses and diffraction would be the limiting factor for me, not the camera’s sensor. Furthermore, for most purposes outside the studio environment, I intend to shoot the D800 in 14 bit compressed RAW, but downsize by half to 18MP for manageable output, lower noise, and better per-pixel detail.

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Untitled. D800, 85/1.4 G

At some point, I will probably source a split prism screen and have the focusing screen and mirror precisely adjusted for manual focus planarity; for now, I’m relying on AF. I do really miss the focusing snap of the custom-cut F6 type-J screen on my D700; it’s just so much easier to tell if things are in focus or not. The standard D800 screen is bright but doesn’t have much snap. This may sound odd, but I’m having trouble getting used to the 100% finder again – I’ve become so accustomed to mentally adding a little bit around the edges of the D700 frame (97% finder) that now I’m chopping things off. Just one of those little differences between the two cameras, but important nevertheless.

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Minor copyright infringement hotel. D800, 85/1.4 G

First impressions on lenses
But this is a camera review! Glass matters. Two big things: a) AF fine tune matters a LOT; b) the optimal set of lenses for this camera is different to the D700, again. The 24/1.4 never quite focused properly on my D700 – I was at the extreme limit of AF fine tune adjustment – but it’s bang on with the D800 with zero adjustment, and incredibly sharp all over. The 85/1.4 needs a lot of shutter speed while handheld to shine; probably double what you’d expect – in the 1/125s range or higher. I’m also seeing a lot of edge CA that wasn’t there before (1-2 pixels worth; that’s probably less than a pixel on the D700). My 60/2.8 G Micro is soft until f5.6 and focus shifts, which isn’t something I’ve ever seen before. Oddly, the 28-300VR is actually rather impressive at 300mm on the D800 – NOT something that could be said about the lens on the D700. In fact, it performs much better on the D800 than it did on my D700 – curious considering the demands of this sensor.

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Mall performance. D800, 85/1.4 G

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And a 100% crop – this is a best case scenario for CA, with the lens wide open at f1.4. There were other, much worse shots; I suspect being ever so slightly out of focus also contributes to visible CA in a big way. The older 85/1.4 D is very likely going to be unusable wide open with any subject that’s even moderately contrasty.

The sole lens that has been outstanding on every camera it’s been mounted on is the Zeiss ZF.2 2/28 Distagon – wide open, I think it has the highest resolution of any of my lenses. Makes me want to get the 2/100 Makro-Planar again, and possibly also the 4/18 Distagon. Generally, lenses I though were good wide open on the D700 are showing a slight but noticeable improvement stopped down, even if only by a stop – I’m talking about my workhorse AFS 24/1.4 G, AFS 60/2.8 G Micro and AFS 85/1.4 G here. Also, lenses that vignetted a bit before will vignette more strongly now; I suspect it’s because the individual photo sites are smaller, and there’s no trick offset micro lens array like in the Leica M8/M9 to counter it.

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Disposal. D800, 85/1.4 G

It was dark by the time I got the camera and had a chance to shoot with it, so take it as a worst case scenario and impressions will almost certainly improve when I have more light to work with. I will not be providing full size files, so please don’t ask. There may be crops. Clicking on any of the images will bring you to a larger version on Flickr; the EXIF data is all intact.

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Untitled. D800, 85/1.4 G

Autofocus
Seems to be about the same speed as the D700 in good light, no difference as far as I can tell in low light. Has issues focusing the 85/1.4 G accurately in low light; this may be true of the D700 but it’s a lot more noticeable here due to the higher resolution. Tracking ability seems slightly improved. More tests are required before I can reach a conclusion here. Contrast detect AF for live view subjectively seems at least twice as fast as the D700, and doesn’t require as many passes while hunting.

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KL Tower peeking. D800, 85/1.4 G

Ergonomics
First thing you notice is the camera is lighter – about 100g, according to the specs. However, I personally find it not quite as comfortable as the D700; my fingers were cramping after use. This is because the lower section of the grip is thinner – not sure why, perhaps their testers had small 4th/5th fingers, or perhaps Nikon just really, really wants you to buy the vertical grip.

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Fruit choices. D800, 85/1.4 G

That’s about the only bad thing ergonomically – I don’t know if it’ll be a deal breaker for extended use. Sadly I don’t find it anywhere near as comfortable as the D4, which is pretty amazing. Oh, there IS one more thing: the mode button is a stretch to access; I feel like I’m going to dislocate my index finger by pressing it. Too often I hit the movie record button by mistake and wondered why nothing was happening. A firmware fix to make the movie button change exposure mode when shooting stills would be a nice easy fix. I do like the new angle for the shutter button, though – it’s much more comfortable.

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Taxi man. D800, 85/1.4 G

There are a lot of nice touches though. Live view is a lot easier to access thanks to the button where the AF mode switch used to be; am I the only person who misses the AF mode switch though? That little button near the lens mount is not so easy to find, but at least you can see what the camera is set to in the finder. The new drive mode dial is also a lot easier to use – it locks and still has detents, so you can count positions and change modes in the dark – there’s a big difference between using CH and Q in a theatre, for instance. Speaking of the shutter, it’s slightly more hollow sounding than the D700; crisper, too. Sadly not as quiet as the D7000, which is nearly silent in Q mode. Interestingly, the mirror doesn’t cycle when shooting in live view – just the shutter – so the camera is actually very quiet, and doesn’t vibrate much. Although the maximum frame rate is 4fps, it doesn’t feel any slower than the 5fps D700. Mirror blackout time is the same, which is to say, effectively instantaneous.

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Dial-a-sunlight. D800, 85/1.4 G

Metering
I mention this because it seems that Nikon’s newest meter isn’t quite as accurate as the last one. My D800 definitely meters a bit hot compared to the D700, and seems a bit more erratic. Further investigation is required here.

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Plugged in. D800, 85/1.4 G

Turning AUTO ISO on and off is an option from the button, finally! You use the front command dial to toggle on/off, and the rear one to select ISO. There’s also an option to automatically select minimum shutter speed as a 1/focal length, with some fine tuning in either direction – sadly, the fine tuning isn’t granular enough. For example, the 85mm defaults to 1/90; adjusting this to ‘faster’ gives 1/200 rather than say 1/125, which would be perfect. Back to manually selecting shutter speed again, it seems. In short: you will be needing to use higher shutter speeds than 1/focal length would suggest. Think about what you’d set on a D7000, and that’s about right – remember, the pixel density is the same.

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Communist taxi. D800, 85/1.4 G

Image quality
Bearing in mind that I’ve only shot it under low light/ night/ available darkness conditions, I’m impressed. It’s doing a decent job for the pixel density – though I would not pick this over a D700 for reportage work. The few flash-based tests I have done have left me stunned. Color accuracy is slightly better than the D700, but resolution is out of this world. Dynamic range is about the same, subjectively; however, instead of being highlight-biased as with the D700/D3, it’s shadow biased – you’ve got to be careful not to blow highlights because there simply isn’t as much recoverable color information there. Still, I wish I’d had the camera earlier today for the food assignment I just shot; it would be the ultimate tool for things like that. No matter, because I’ve got several watch shoots in the coming weeks. Early impressions are that the pixels don’t have the same degree of elasticity/ integrity as the D700 (duh) and are probably somewhere between that and the D7000; probably closer to the D7000.

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The burden. D800, 85/1.4 G

Noise
See the following crops; they were shot under pretty dark conditions and tungsten light, i.e. a torture test. Subjectively, I think it’s ~1 stop behind the D700 at a pixel level; if you downsize to D700 size, it’s actually a stop ahead. Now if only Nikon would give us a pixel-binned half-resolution sRAW size for low light! If you are shooting full resolution, I recommend stopping your auto-ISO at 6400; anything higher than that has to be downsized to look good. 3200 is definitely acceptable, and anything below is good. The reality of printing, however, is that because you’ve got so many more pixels, a print will look a lot better than at 100% on screen. There’s no sign of banding, but beware of strong noise in one particular channel over another in the shadows, but it depends on the temperature of your light source – for instance, heavy shadow recovery or dodging under fluorescent lights is going to give you a red cast to that area.

Note that I didn’t bother with ISO 100 and 200, they look the same as ISO 400. Click to go see larger versions on flickr – the ‘original’ size is a 100% crop.


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ISO 400-800

D700-D800-ISO1600-3200
ISO 1600-3200

D700-D800-ISO6400-25k
ISO 6400-25600

Here’s a real world ISO 6400 example, sodium-vapor street light. Yes, it’s noisy at 100%, but I’m fairly confident it’ll print just fine.

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And a 100% crop.

Movie mode
I’m not a huge video person, though I have dabbled (to be the subject of a future article). I do know what good quality footage looks like. The D800 is excellent. Dynamic range is great; noise is low, and above all, there’s no rolling shutter effect that I can see – even while panning rapidly under fluorescent light operating off a 60Hz AC supply.

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Battery life
Pretty darn good, I think – I just grabbed the battery that came with the camera; 36% charged; shot about 650 frames, and it went down to 6%. Extrapolating, that’s about 2,100 shots per charge. And that was with heavy LCD use and some live view. One battery should more than get you through a day – you’ll run out of card space far, far sooner. I can’t honestly say I’m pleased about the complete battery system change (I have plenty of EN-EL3es and EN-EL4as) – but at least the new power system lasts longer, and also has a little catch that allows for a spring loaded (read: easier to replace) battery.

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Salad days. D800, Zeiss ZF.2 2/28 Distagon

Buffering and file handling
The manual claims 25 images for 14-bit compressed raw – the camera shows r13, but I’m getting 17, using a UHS-I Sandisk Extreme 32GB SDHC card. Still trying to find out where the difference is; auto ISO gives back three more frames, but curiously NR makes no difference. The buffer flushes surprisingly quickly, and you never feel like you’re waiting for files to write – although there is a slight lag when playing back images, probably due to the file size.

It’s probably worth noting that file handling is a bit slower, but not 3x slower (despite 3x the resolution) – however some operations like brushes etc. and even converting in ACR definitely take longer, so budget time accordingly. I’m using a mid-2010 MacBook Pro with the 2.66GHz i7 and 8GB of RAM. I don’t even want to think about retouching files this big yet.

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100% crop of the above.

Early conclusion
It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that getting the most out of the D800 is going to require a lot more care than the D700; the resolution is so high, in fact, that I think the AF system may be letting it down slightly – not from a speed point of view, but from a precision standpoint. And I’m not sure it’s the AF sensor per se, but possibly the granularity with which the lens motors can move the elements small distances. I know that in live view, there’s a point of critical sharpness that’s usually very tough to hit using the focusing rings of AF lenses; the travel is simply too fast.

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Untitled soaking tomatoes. D800, 60/2.8 G Micro

I don’t think the D800 is a general purpose tool. It definitely isn’t a run-and-gun photojournalist’s camera; in fact, I find it more demanding to shoot street with this than the Leica M9-P. It’s probably at a two stop or more disadvantage to the D700 if you want critical sharpness at the pixel level – firstly, you’ve got a slightly noisier sensor, and secondly, you’re going to need higher shutter speeds to maintain pixel integrity and combat camera shake. Although downsizing the files to 12MP yields lower noise and more detail than the D700, I don’t think I’ll be using the D800 for photojournalism at the moment; I’m going to have to figure out the AF and lens foibles first.

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100% crop of the above.

Where the camera will shine is in the studio for work with controlled lighting, or landscapes – the resolution is outstandingly impressive, and dynamic range at base ISO seems subjectively on par with the D700 – no mean feat indeed. However, I need to do more testing in daylight (not experiments with flash) to determine for sure. Stay tuned for more images and thoughts over the next few days; at some point I want to try to get hold of a Leica S2 to do a head to head comparison. Please leave a note in the comments below if you’ve got any questions or have something you’d like me to test, and I’ll do my best. Right now, I’m going to get some sleep. MT

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  2. After more than a year, we can say that: the Nikon D800 is the best DSLR in the world.

    • ‘Best’ is a very subjective term; best all-round 35mm format, certainly. Best at resolution? There’s medium format. Speed? There’s the 1Dx. Etc. :)

  3. Is there anything stopping the D800/e from functioning as a kick-ass street/travel/reportage camera? I usually shoot this style and all your advice points to the D600 or 700, but the call of the sirens of Ultimate Detail is difficult to resist. 45MB files do not scare me. 4fps is enough. I understand I wont get pixel-level perfection if I shoot “undisciplined” with this camera, but files downsized to 24mp should look at least as good as the D600 with equivalent glass, right? And there is better autofocus sensitivity and coverage. Worse case, I’ve just spent too much money for image quality I could get with the D600 instead, right? Thing is, I can only afford one camera. With a refurbished D800 for $2300, Im asking why not spend the extra cash and have that insane detail in the bank for when I do bust out the tripod and the fancy glass? And use it for general travel/street as well. But the D600 on a tripod will never do what the D800 can. Is my thinking misguided? Your blog is great. Many Nikon ‘experts’ out there, but few who back up their talk with top-quality work. Thanks for all the insights and photos.

    • Physical size and weight, handling those large files afterwards, not always being able to make the most of the resolution due to camera shake/ marginal shutter speeds/ less than perfect focus, etc. In short: all sorts of reasons covered many times in the comments and other parts of this site.

      Your thinking isn’t misguided; so long as you go into it knowing that you’re going to have to compromise somewhere if you’re off a tripod or outside the studio, you’re fine.

      • Thank you, Ming. Yes, it’s a big camera, with big files. So those are indeed compromises when travelling and planning to shoot quick and light. However, I think I am going for the D800e. The chance to have medium format level resolution is just too hard to pass up.

        But for the quick-shooting situations, head-to-head with the D600, I am curious: how much difference in file detail would you expect to see between a D600 file and a 24mp down-sampled D800 file in a spontaneous street shooting scenario with ‘average’ shooting technique? Would the D800 still be able to squeeze more usable detail out of the scene, despite some pixel-level imperfections? Or would run-and-gun style shooting completely even out the IQ difference between the cameras?

        • They’ll be pretty close. If you’ve got average technique, you may not see any difference at all.

          • Hopefully the new camera will inspire enhanced technique. Thanks again. The work you do on this blog is really invaluable for less experienced photographers. And how amazing to personally answer all of these messages! I wish you luck with that as your reputation grows. haha.. I don’t see a referral link for Adorama, but I’ll keep you in mind the next time I buy something through Amazon or B&H.

            • Thanks – it all takes a lot of time and work, though. Note that you can actually buy through Adorama via Amazon; just click on the ‘other buying options’ button when you find the product. The referrals still go through. :)

  4. Dear Ming,

    In this article you say that “I intend to shoot the D800 in 14 bit compressed RAW, but downsize by half to 18MP for manageable output, lower noise, and better per-pixel detail.” Can you describe what method you use to do downsize properly?

    Thanks,

    Nick

    • I would downsize in ACR, though the reality has turned out a bit different – I shoot it at full resolution, or not at all. File handling has turned out to be a bit more of a bottleneck than expected. This might change with a faster computer, though.

  5. Hi Ming,

    I turn to you for answers regarding the D800E because I’m not getting clear answers from other sources.

    I set my camera up to model my D700 when it comes to AF-S where AF-S priority selection (a2) is set to “focus.” I do this so that the camera will not take out of focus images after the shutter release is depressed half way. By doing so, I can tell if an image will be in focus, since the camera will not allow me to take a picture when the subject goes out of focus after locking has occurred (assuming shutter speed is set to freeze the scene properly).

    If I set up my D800E this way, according to page 282 of the manual it should work the same way as the D700…”This option [a2] controls whether photographs can be taken only when the camera is in focus…” However, it is not behaving this way.

    Amazingly, on page 101 of the D800/E manual, it states that when using manual focus, the image can be out of focus and the shutter can still be released! Who wants to take out of focus pictures?

    Is there a way to set the D800E up so that after the shutter button is depressed half way and locks focus it will not release all the way and take a picture if the subject goes out of focus after lock has been achieved?

    Thank you! I appreciate all your good work.

    • No, the D700 will also release if you’re in AF-S focus priority then move the MF ring after the camera thinks it’s achieved focus. Otherwise, you should use AF-C and focus priority instead…this will automatically compensate for movement of the ring (deliberate or otherwise).

      • Thank you for the comments, Ming.

        I would like to ask this question: Is there a way to set up the D800E in AF-S mode so that after the shutter button is depressed half way and locks focus it will not release all the way and take a picture if the subject goes out of focus (e.g. moves a bit) after lock has been achieved?

        Nick

  6. Tremendous review. Thank you for your time and effort!

  7. hi dear Ming
    Thanks for the great job , awesome review , i have several questions
    1- After your great analysis and dealing with his camera for while and from your article i understood this camera needs special consideration on the lenses choice because some lenses were known to perform very well in previous models seems not giving the same good result with this camera, so i would love to know what your recommended lenses for landscape , macro and portrait (Nikon or any other brand that fits ) to get the maximum result from this monster ? can u give me special comment on 24mm 3.5 PC-e for landscape ?
    2- Can u summarize your final thought about the camera performance regarding auto focus system regarding accuracy and speed
    (day light and low light)? any significant improvement ? i know u have mentioned it in your article but i did not get it well.
    3- I read in several reviews that that auto focus system in live view is miserable due to interpolation ,especially compared to canon
    5D mark 3 ? any fixes for this ?
    4- what is the best technique to get good focusing at low light condition within the limitation/specifications of this camera
    5- you mentioned it is not all around camera and not for every one , that being said and for some one coming from DX world
    ( D7000) mainly shooting landscape, nature, macro and sometime portrait do u recommend it ? and what is the best techniques
    that i can follow to the get the maximum of it ,I lean more towards D800 and i can not afford another camera for holidays, my
    alternative is d600 ,so your feedback is very crucial for me to decide which way i go D800 or D600.
    finally i hope i explained my questions clearly and excuse me for my bad English

    best regard
    thank a lot for your help

    • one more thing Ming , if i down-sample the big file form D800 (36mp) for web posting ( as small as 800px-550px or a little bit larger ) .any artifacts and jaggies impact on the final small image , i will using D800 mainly for web sharing and sometime for small print , i know u are going to say it i it is a waste to use D800 only for these purposes , to be honest i love to have it unless my final result will be degraded with such artifacts
      thanks a gain

      • It depends on your processing. But yes, it’s a waste to use the D800 for that because you’ll have to deal with enormous files for tiny output. Just doesn’t make any sense.

  8. hi dear Ming
    Thanks for the great job , awesome review , i have several questions
    1- After your great analysis and dealing with his camera for while what your recommended lenses for landscape , macro and
    portrait (Nikon or any other brand that fits ) to get the maximum result from this monster ? what about 24mm 3.5 PC-e for
    landscape ?
    2- Can u summarize your final thought about the camera performance regarding auto focus system regarding accuracy and speed
    (day light and low light)? any significant improvement ? i know u have mentioned it in your article but i did not get it well.
    3- I read in several reviews that that auto focus system in live view is miserable due to interpolation ,especially compared to canon
    5D mark 3 ? any fixes for this ?
    4- what is the best technique to get good focusing at low light condition within the limitation of the camera
    5- you mentioned it is not all around camera and not for every one , that being said and for some one coming from DX world
    ( D7000) mainly shooting landscape, nature, macro and sometime portrait do u recommend it ? and what is the best techniques
    that i can follow to the get the maximum of it ,I lean more towards D800 and i can not afford another camera for holidays, my
    alternative is d600 ,so your feedback is very crucial for me to decide which way i go D800 or D600.
    i hope i explain my questions clearly and excuse me for my bad English

    best regard
    thank a lot for your help

    • You are asking all of the same questions I answered in the review…
      1. Read the Camerapedia and recommended lenses for the D800
      2. Not as good as the D700. Potential accuracy issues with the left side. Doesn’t feel as positive overall.
      3. No, the maximum magnification goes beyond 100%. Don’t zoom in all the way. Set JPEG sharpening to high, which helps with the preview (but doens’t affect your raw file). I deal with those issues here
      4. Single point AF-C and proper AF fine tune calibration on all your lenses. This is for every camera, not just the D800.
      5. No. Don’t buy it unless you need to make very, very big prints – the D600’s 24MP will be more than enough for even a 40×60″ if you have good technique and processing.

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  2. […] the fact that it wasn’t really that different to the original D800, which I already reviewed here (I believe it was the first complete one up on the internet, actually). But now, I think enough […]

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